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For those of you in the UK: vote, or lose the right to complain when your council is controlled by the BNP.

I live in London, so today we're voting for the new mayor and for members of the London Assembly (a body that keeps its eyes on, and advises, the mayor).

I've managed to see surprisingly little info on the elections (though more than my colleague who was, yesterday, quite bewildered by the idea there was an election today - despite the fact his kids' school was closed for use as a polling station). Last week we had a flyer through the door from the Conservative Party - the only party that bothered to flyer us. It requested that we: 1. On the pink ballot paper vote Zac for mayor. 2. On the white ballot paper, vote Dominic for the London Assembly. 3. On the orange ballot paper, vote Conservative.

Oh. I wonder what the orange ballot paper is for.

When I was given my ballot papers this morning, the election chap explained that I could make two selections on the pink mayoral paper, "and here's your other two".

Fortunately, I had got round to looking up what the mysterious orange slip was for. Just under half of the London Assembly members are "London-wide" (rather than tied to a constituency) and are elected by proportional representation after a party ballot.

Equally fortunately, I also know how the mayoral ballot works. I'm not really making two selections, I'm voting for first and second choice candidates. The election is a two-horse race between Sadiq Khan (Labour) and Zac Goldsmith (Conservative), although there are twelve candidates[*]. Two choices mean you're not forced to choose between the tactical choice and the minority candidate you actually like. And maybe we get to find out just how many people actually like that minority candidate. It's great, it makes voting a lot more fun, and it's almost like the country should have voted to ditch FPTP five years ago.

But the system is more complicated than FPTP, and it's really not been well advertised. The whole election - its options, its mechanisms, and its existence - hasn't been well advertised. I predict pitifully low turn-out, some of which will doubtless be down to apathy, but I reckon a lot will be caused by ignorance. Sure, the info is there, but you have to go and look for it. In fact, I think everyone's so taken up with the EU referendum in June that the tedious business of running our towns has got a bit forgotten.

[*] It's also, given that the office has been dominated since creation by Ken or Boris, a curiously no-horse race.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com
I was bewildered - I thought we were having an election in June. No councils here, though, just Scottish Parliament.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Yes, my colleague thought all the elections were rolled up with the referendum in June. Probably because it's all anyone's talked about!

I forgot that non-England was electing its parliaments. I'm a bit hazy about how the devolved parliaments work, but figure it's quite low down the list of things I currently need to know :)

Date: 2016-05-05 11:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com
The elections are a baffling kind of semi-PR which actually works out quite well as long as you don't think about it too much - one vote for a local candidate, one for a party from the regional list, at which point they start comparing the number of constituency MSPs each party has gained to their proportion of the vote, and filling in the biggest gaps with top-up people from the list.

If you mean what they do once they get there, I'm not sure anyone knows ;)

(I think I had orange and purple, but can't remember which was which.)
Edited Date: 2016-05-05 11:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-05-05 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com
I've voted. In my case it's only a PCC election, but hey. I've then failed to get into work because of that fire at Vauxhall.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
You've lost me there, I read PCC as Parochial Church Council which I don't imagine is really what you mean :-)

Are you working from home? That fire does look quite disruptive.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com
It stands for police and crime commissioner. You ain't got one in London because it's covered by the Mayor (in practice Boris allocated the role to a deputy but the new person may not).

No, I'm taking leave. I don't have my laptop and I found out quite early (although not until I'd stood at the station for a while), so I'm bumbling around at home.

Date: 2016-05-05 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com

Nice weather for a day off, hope you enjoy it!

Date: 2016-05-05 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lathany.livejournal.com
:-) It is.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotturinn.livejournal.com
We've got 'em for local council and Police Commissioner here. We've had no flyers and no knockers for either this time. Not even much in the local free sheet either. I wonder why..........................................

Date: 2016-05-05 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
We had PR for the Police & Crime Commissioner (would you like to commission Labour or Tory crime?) and three votes to cast over a big list of candidates for local councils. We too have had no leaflets except Labour, which I delivered so I've got about 20 of them in my living room still.

Date: 2016-05-05 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com

I think a leaflet probably doesn't count as outreach if you delivered it to yourself :)


If you're involved with a local party, do you know how much advertising they did? In London, for example, I'd take posters on the tube and on bus-stops as a given (both promoting parties/candidates and saying "hey, there's an election, here's what to do") but I haven't seen a single one. Today, a surprising number of people seem quite oblivious.

Date: 2016-05-06 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
This turns out to be a lie. Both the station where I get on the tube and the station where I get off have posters advertising the existence of the mayoral election (though I don't think they mention that you can put first/second choices down).

I have apparently walked past the posters without registering their existence for the previous however long. Which surprises me, because I do usually read such things.

Date: 2016-05-05 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exspelunca.livejournal.com
Up here, North of the "Northern Powerhouse", we've just got the PCC and, as all three candidates are standing as party reps, I voted but returned a blank form, the only way to protest that party politics and police don't mix. Our council is voted for en masse, every four years so, once in, they've got four years to b***** up the town and, with an almost one-party lot and totally undemocratic cabinet system, they are doing it royally. Our town was pretty-ish and did have a good, well-used, square.

Date: 2016-05-06 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotturinn.livejournal.com
Yup - similar here for the PCC (except we had 4 candidates). I, and some others of my acquaintance, spoilt our ballot papers for the first time in our lives.

Bad luck on the town-b****** :-(

Date: 2016-05-05 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com
It was a nice experience being able to put a first and second choice for once (for me this was the PCC election). And we didn't even need £250 million voting machines...

We received quite a lot of leaflets through the door (mostly Lib Dem, some Labour, and I don't think I saw anything from anyone else).

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